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PostSubject: Gang-stalking and the low frequency hive mind: Demons or tech?   Wed Jul 01, 2015 4:20 am

Hi I think Dr Robert Duncan's book the Matrix deciphered explains the hive mind best.

It is done using ground based radar, satellites etc.

Hence not everyone on the hive mind can read minds, only to the extent the CIA wants them to. Hence Arthurs for example couldn't read the passwords of bankers and steal their money, but the CIA could put in their head the voice saying "Kill him, do it do it"

I have heard other people say that gangstalking is an initiation process and they learned occult knowledge in the process. That's fine. But they don't understand the occult knowledge was projected into their head via RADAR based technologies controlled by the CIA.

The CIA uses scripts to fool the unwilling participants in their experiments. Such as the God is telling you what to do script, or Satanists are trying to steal your soul script.

Dr Robert Duncan has interviewed hundreds of people involved in gangstalking and his conclusions are backed up by his work as a CIA as a scientist helping to develope these technologies.

The book is free google it. "The Matrix Deciphered"
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PostSubject: Re: Gang-stalking and the low frequency hive mind: Demons or tech?   Wed Jul 01, 2015 11:54 am

Nahhh, that's not it Drut2 mate.

This has been going on for thousands of years. Besides, even had street tramps show this psychic ability. Those guys don't have any CIA super tech the only anomalous materials in the hand of a schizo-street tramp is a bottle of White Lightening Cider.

Also the street gang The Arthurs can do this as I mentioned.

It's nothing but the old fashioned human brain and it's various magnetic fields and signals.

Other minds can sometimes 'tune into' other people's mind signals, sometimes these minds are human, sometimes they are demonic and non-human.

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PostSubject: Re: Gang-stalking and the low frequency hive mind: Demons or tech?   Thu Jul 02, 2015 12:21 am

The CIA mind control technology works via satellite, ground based radar etc.

Street tramp can read mind - how? Because CIA reads person's A mind using satellite, then decodes the information, then uses a matrix to translate that information so person B can understand it, then uses satellite to project into person's B mind.

If the Illuminatti could read minds for thousands of years why was Hitler betrayed? Couldn't he have read the betrayer's mind? Or the French King, why didn't he read/control the minds of the Freemasons?

Look at Karin Catherine Waldegrave's writing. She had the "descended from nobility" script same as you, but she at least knew it was remote sensing EMR technology. Lots of people fall for the occult script, no shame in that, it's partially true. See Lt Col Michael Aquino, He's both a satanist and headed NSA.
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PostSubject: Re: Gang-stalking and the low frequency hive mind: Demons or tech?   Thu Jul 02, 2015 12:33 pm

Well, there's little to no evidence for your position Drut.

The evidence for my assertion is at least circumstantial. 

I don't know why you insist on the need for technology when witches and mystics have been achieving this stuff for thousands of years.

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PostSubject: Re: Gang-stalking and the low frequency hive mind: Demons or tech?   Thu Jul 02, 2015 11:00 pm

"Well, there's little to no evidence for your position Drut."

https://vimeo.com/55892113

No problem if you aren't interested. Good luck on your search for truth!
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PostSubject: Re: Gang-stalking and the low frequency hive mind: Demons or tech?   Fri Jul 03, 2015 3:53 pm

Well they never used that shit on me.

The one piece of tech I can confirm is the use of electronic signals to create a disassociative trance.....

Thing is Drut, I know the truth. I don't have to search anymore because I've been living this shit for over 10 years. I don't need Youtube videos to inform me. I experience this stuff FIRST HAND.

You manage to accumulate extensive notes..... the blog and the forum is my research..... Perhaps you ought to check out my blog huh? It might clear things up for you.

As for you Drut.... do you personally experience any of this stuff?

Otherwise you're just pushing ideas around.......I'm deep in this stuff man, not just some random youtube culture vulture with time on his hands.

This Illuminati psychic network is HUGE... possibly up to half the world's population is plugged into the darkness and many many people have mind reading capabilities.

If you're telling me that everyone has these little psychic-ray guns in their hands the CIA gave them then you're onto a loser. 

I mean you telling me that all those random gang stalkers have CIA psychic ray guns in thir cargo pants?

Forget the tech angle mate..... It's a road to nowhere.

The human mind is infinitely more powerful than any technology.

One word: hypnotism.

No gadget required.

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PostSubject: Re: Gang-stalking and the low frequency hive mind: Demons or tech?   Fri Jul 03, 2015 11:55 pm

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Thing is Drut, I know the truth. I don't have to search anymore because I've been living this shit for over 10 years. I don't need Youtube videos to inform me. I experience this stuff FIRST HAND.

You manage to accumulate extensive notes..... the blog and the forum is my research..... Perhaps you ought to check out my blog huh? It might clear things up for you.

As for you Drut.... do you personally experience any of this stuff?

Someone who was gangstalked said the same thing to me. I've lived this stuff, I don't need to read it. But Dr Robert Duncan has interviewed 600+ victims. We don't disregard history because we led an interesting life. By talking to others we gain useful information from their expereinces which can be different to ours, leading to a better understanding of life.

I read you blog I like the Shutter Island explanation (that's how I got here, gooleing that movie).

I've lived through gangstalking (6 months were very hard) I credit my sanity to Dr Robert Duncan's book. I have forum you can see me talk about some of my experiences there. http://thethrowaways.freeforums.net/

The important thing is that another user there and myself both experinced dream manipulation that was satanic (for example a devil with a broken head telling me a message and I would wake up with my legs in the hanging man tarot card position. So I can see how people would conclude from experiences like this that it is occult in origin. But I also expeienced other things such as alien related stuff, cyborg related stuff, super soldier, at one stage telepathic messages from an alien who worshipped jesus. Basically the CIA was cycling through the various scripts they had because none of them were working properly. The best one they got was the joker script. I watched dark knight hundreds of times. This was before the aurora shooter.

If you look at the technology most devices use over the horizon radar like haarp ie. not hand held devices. The information is public knowledge. For example how they manipulate your dreams:

http://thethrowaways.freeforums.net/thread/64/faq-finished-cia-sleep

I currently sleep with a passaive jamming device which has stopped the dream manipulation. If I forget to put it up one night, my dreams will be manipulated (how can you tellyou might ask? because they can end in electric shocks, music playing in head, and typically are horror filled eg. scenes of rape and torture). Sometimes they do infinite loop torture, where I will dream I have just woken from a dream, get up, find something is wrong in my room which fills me with horror, then I dream I woke up, get up, find something is wrong in my room, then I dream I woke up ...

I wonder if you have had this too given your infinite looping meme on your site?

If you like movies with hidden messages, Fight Club is really about CIA mind control via radar.
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PostSubject: Re: Gang-stalking and the low frequency hive mind: Demons or tech?   Sat Jul 04, 2015 11:55 am

Thanks for your story Drut.

Since you are an ACTUAL experiencer I'm not going to try to convince you I'm right, after all, you experienced something and you've got your views about it.

Just have a look at some of my articles on my blog which investigate our controllers.

One thing I do wonder though, are you a spiritual person or would you say you're materialistic and atheistic?

I wonder if people who do not believe in spirituality or God tend to reject the 'demonic' element to this and believe it's tech-based because this fits their materialistic paradigm....

Any truth to this?

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PostSubject: Re: Gang-stalking and the low frequency hive mind: Demons or tech?   Sat Jul 04, 2015 11:17 pm

This article is pretty interesting. According to what it says it seems to be technology AND the spirits of the dead. Demons AND techno. Evil hi-fi and death by stereo..... or something like that. Pretty interesting. I don't know how true any of it is though.

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/tesla/lostjournals/lostjournals05.htm


 
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Chapter Five

Tesla and Electronic Voice Phenomena 

No one can deny that computers and electronics have forever changed our way of life. There are electronic controls and computer chips in everything from the small appliances that toast our bread to the cars we drive, and make possible myriad forms of new entertainment, from VCRs and DVDs to video games and talking stuffed toys. 

For a number of years some people have claimed that electronics can be useful in a quite unexpected way: to contact the dead, or at least allow the dead to contact us. Obviously, these claims are highly controversial. They make many assumptions: that there is life after death, that the dead are interested in contacting us, and that they have the means by which to do so. 

The mysterious signals that Tesla received could be linked to what is now known as Electronic Voice Phenomena (EVP). Tesla was one of the first men to experiment with the necessary electronic receiving equipment. The very same equipment, albeit more sophisticated than Tesla had access to, is being used today to receive EVP. 

Many people experimenting with Electronic Voice Phenomena (EVP) and Instrumental Transcommunication (ITC) say they have received messages from "the other side" through radios, tape recorders, VCRs, televisions, telephones, and even computers. 

These phenomena have manifest themselves since the appearance of the instruments themselves. EVP, for example, has been reported for well over 50 years or more: Strange voices being picked up with primitive radios during WWI and heard faintly on magnetic recording tape. 

Tesla may have been the first to receive these electronic voices from another plane of reality. As with other modes of communications with alleged discarnate entities, care must be taken not to be swayed by the stories often told by beings from the other side. Tesla may have been duped, so-to-speak, by voices that only pretended to be creatures from other planets. 

This is nothing new to those who are familiar with the tall tales told to them by spirits who claim to be ascended masters, Abraham Lincoln or Ashtar of the Interplanetary Space Command. Spirits love to tell lies to anyone who will listen. 

Those such as Tesla and Marconi who experimented with radio early on were the first to report anomalous sounds and voices emanating from their radio receivers. These early reports were looked upon as mildly interesting curiosities and quickly forgotten. 

Theosophist Alice Bailey in 1936, transcribed these words of her great teacher, the Tibetan Master DK:

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"Within the next few years the fact of the eternity of existence will have advanced from the realm of questioning into the realm of certainty. Through the use of the radio by those who have passed over, will communication be set up and reduced to a true science."
It has been widely written that Edison and his assistant, Dr. Miller Hutchinson, were seriously at work building a machine to achieve spirit communication. Tesla wrote in his journals that Thomas Edison had heard from other engineers that Tesla had been receiving mysterious voices and sounds over radio frequencies that were not conducive for the broadcasting of the human voice. 

Edison, who publicly mocked Tesla and his experiments, privately believed that Tesla had managed to find the correct frequency to enable communication with spirits of the dead. Edison was determined to discover Tesla's secret, and be the first to get the "Spirit Phone" on the market. 

In his diary, Dr. Miller Hutchinson wrote:

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"Edison and I are convinced that in the fields of psychic research will yet be discovered facts that will prove of greater significance to the thinking of the human race than all the inventions we have ever made in the field of electricity."
Edison failed to live long enough to succeed with his ill-gotten idea to best Tesla. Tesla simply noted in his journal that Edison was trying to use his patents to talk with specters. Edison thought that Tesla could listen to spirits, Tesla considered that he was hearing people from other planets - the voices could have been the same, they may have just changed their stories to fit the belief system of the listener. 

In 1967, Edison allegedly spoke through West German clairvoyant Sigrun Seuterman, in trance, about his earlier efforts to develop equipment for recording voices from the beyond. Edison also made suggestions as to how to modify TV sets and tune them to 740 megahertz to get paranormal effects. (Session recorded on tape by Paul Affolter, Liestal, Switzerland). 

On September 15, 1952, two Catholic priests, Father Ernetti and Father Gemilli were collaborating on a musical research project; Ernetti as an internationally respected scientist, physicist, philosopher and music lover, and Gemilli as President of the Papal Academy. 

The two men were trying to record a Gregorian chant, but a wire in their equipment kept breaking. Exasperated, Gemilli looked up and asked his dead father for help. To his amazement his fathers voice was heard saying: "Of course I shall help you. I'm always with you." They repeated the experiment, and the voice, even clearer than before, said: "But Zucchini, it is clear, don't you know it is I?." 

Gemilli was astonished. No one knew his childhood nickname but his father. The priest was suddenly afraid, for as a Catholic priest he had no right to speak with the dead. Troubled, the two men eventually sought an audience with Pope Pius XII in Rome. 

Gemilli told the Pontiff of his experience, and to his surprise, was reassured. According to the 1990 translated text of his meeting, Pope Pius told Gemilli:

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"You really need not worry about this. The existence of this voice is strictly a scientific fact and has nothing whatsoever to do with spiritism. The recorder is totally objective. It receives and records sound waves from wherever they come. This experiment may perhaps become the cornerstone for a building for scientific studies which will strengthen people's faith in a hereafter."
Electronic Voice Phenomena was next researched by two men from California, the medium Attila von Szalay and paranormal researcher Raymond Bayless. In 1956, they recorded, quite by chance, a series of paranormal voices on magnetic tape, voices that should not logically have been there. 

Though Bayless reported their experiments in the Journal of the American Society for Psychical Research, like Tesla years before, not a single person contacted the society or the researchers to enquire about their work. 

It was not until 1959 when Friedrich Juergenson, a film producer in Sweden, first made public his amazing voice recordings, did the world sit up and take notice of the Tesla voice phenomena. 

Juergenson, while making a documentary, had decided to try and tape bird songs. When he played the tape back he was startled to hear, in among the tweeting and chirping, what sounded like his mother's voice say in German:

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"Friedrich, you are being watched. Friedel, my little Friedel, can you hear me?"
Years later, Juergenson said that when he heard his mother's voice he was convinced he had made "an important discovery." 
 


Radio Contact With the Dead

In 1967, Juergenson's Radio Contact with the Dead was translated into German, and Latvian psychologist Dr. Konstantin Raudive read it skeptically. He visited Juergenson to learn his methodology, decided to experiment on his own, and soon began developing his own experimental techniques. 

Like Juergenson, Raudive too heard the voice of his own deceased mother, who called him by his boyhood name:

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"Kostulit, this is your mother."
Eventually he catalogued tens of thousands of voices, many under strict laboratory conditions. 

He published his book, Unhoerbares Wird Hoerbar (The Inaudible Becomes Audible), based on 72,000 voices he recorded. 

In 1971, the chief engineers of Pye Records Ltd. decided to do a controlled experiment with Raudive. They invited him to their sound lab and installed special equipment to block out any radio and television signals. They would not allow Raudive to touch any of the equipment. 

Raudive used one tape recorder which was monitored by a control tape recorder. All he could do was speak into a microphone. They taped Raudive's voice for eighteen minutes and none of the experimenters heard any other sounds. But when the scientists played back the tape, to their amazement, they heard over two hundred voices recorded on tape. 

In the same year, Colin Smythe, Ltd. England, published expanded English translations of Raudive's book: Breakthrough, an Amazing Experiment in Electronic Communication with the Dead. Dr. Konstantin Raudive was a Latvian psychologist who had read Juergenson's book, Radio Contact with the Dead, with a great deal of skepticism when it was translated into German in 1967. Nevertheless he was intrigued and over several years carried out hundreds of experiments under laboratory conditions. 

In the years that followed, Juergenson and Raudive continued their research that inspired countless others to emulate their experiments. But constant criticism that the EVP was nothing more than ambient sounds processed by the mind into a semblance of speech, or snatches of shortwave radio, dampened enthusiasm for research in Europe. 

However, during the 1970s and early 80s in the United States, EVP continued to evolve with much of the work spearheaded by a retired engineer, George Meek. In 1971, Meek opened a small laboratory Philadelphia after a lifetime's interest in the paranormal. Meek soon became immersed in EVP -and realized its limitations. Meek was convinced that for electronic communication with the dead to really make its mark, apparatus more sophisticated than cassette recorders and AM radios would be necessary. 

Meek decided that the best way to succeed was to attempt contact with someone who had passed on and work with him and his team in achieving two-way communication with the Other Side. The problem of course was gaining the initial contact. 

Meek wrote to the now defunct American magazine The Psychic Observer, which put him in touch with Bill O'Neil, an electronics engineer who was also a gifted clairvoyant. Through O'Neil, Meek's team, later to form themselves into the Metascience Foundation, made contact with a man who claimed to have been dead for five years and who was a medical doctor while on earth. 

"Doc Nick," as the discarnate became known, suggested to O'Neil that the team use certain audio frequencies instead of the white noise traditionally used by EVP researchers. This, he said, would serve as an energy source against which the sounds produced by his vocal cords could be played. The resulting experiments worked better than anyone had ever expected. 

Soon after, a spirit being calling himself Dr. George Jeffries Mueller, was recruited to the team, or rather he announced he had come to join them after materializing one afternoon in O'Neil's living room. Mueller claimed to be a deceased university professor and NASA scientist. 

Mueller told Meek and O'Neil that he had died in 1967 and gave them numerous facts with which to verify his identity including his security number; the place where his death certificate could be found; and intimate details of his life and scholastic achievements. All of them checked out. 

He began communicating regularly; helping to design a new piece of electromagnetic equipment that would convert spirit voices to audible voices. On October 27, 1977, his first words were recorded on the new system Meek called Spiricom

Tapes of the Mueller conversations were subsequently released to the public. The voice of Mueller can be plainly heard joking with Meek and O'Neil and discussing topics from his favorite foods to the view of time from the spirit world. 

He gave unlisted telephone numbers asking them to make calls to confirm the identity (which they did successfully) of the people at the other end (usually top-level government personnel); and he gives O'Neil precise directions with which to help build experimental video equipment to take spirit communication to the next level. 

The clarity of the communications is astounding - and sometimes amusing: in one conversation, Mueller identifies a problem with a particular device and impatiently barks at O'Neil:

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"The fault lies in an impedance mis-match which can be corrected by using a 150 ohm half-watt resistor in parallel with a 0.0047 microfad ceramic capacitor."
Eventually, Mueller ceased contact after telling Meek and O'Neil that natural law meant he could "not be here forever."
 
(He did in fact return once more to a group of ITC researchers working in Rivenick, Germany, led by Adolph Homes. In 1991 they received on a TV screen an image which was said to be that of Dr Mueller). 

Meek concluded that Mueller had progressed to a higher state of being to such a point that Spiricom could no longer be used for communication. Apparently, only beings closest to the Earth plane of existence, could communicate through the relatively primitive electronics. 

It had become clear that the most limiting aspect of the device was the fact that it depended almost entirely on the operator possessing mediumistic or psychic abilities. Obviously, gifted individuals like Bill O'Neil, Dr. Konstantin Raudive and Nikola Tesla were a necessary component in the reception of signals and voices from the Aether. 

Much like batteries energize a portable CD player, the vibrant field of energy that surrounds special people activates electronic equipment tuned to receive other realities. Without these people, it is doubtful that enough energy can be provided by the discarnate entity to achieve communication. 

George Meek fully accepted this and never patented Spiricom. His hope was that science would carry on his work and take it to the next level, going beyond what he and O'Neil were able and unable to accomplish. 

In 1982 Meek held a press conference in Washington, DC and revealed Spiricom's secrets. The conference made little impact on a largely skeptical world; in fact a large section of the media even refused to attend, so the device went largely unreported -except by the tabloids who naturally poked fun at the sensational story. Since that time, the focus of attention in terms of results has switched to Europe. 

Nine months after Meek went public, on January 15, 1982, an electronics engineer named Hans-Otto Koenig, helped the now defunct Radio Luxembourg do a live broadcast on what was claimed to be a two-way conversation with a dead person. 

Koenig had invented an ultrasound device after closely following Meek's work which, he claimed, could replicate the Spiricom and Mueller/O'Neil dialogues. The equipment was set up under the watchful eye of the Radio Luxembourg engineers. 

The device, nicknamed Koenig's Generator by Rainer Holbe, the programs host, was connected to a set of speakers and switched on. An engineer asked over the air if any spirits cared to speak. Within seconds, a clear voice was heard. It said quite simply:

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"Otto Koenig makes wireless with the dead."
Understandably pandemonium broke out in the studio. 

Another question was asked and seconds later a voice replied:

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"We hear your voice."
Rainer Holbe affirmed live on air there had been no trickery and later the station issued a statement stating that its engineers had found no natural explanation for what had happened. 

Soon after, the device was demonstrated to members of the German EVP Association in Frankfurt where Konstantin Raudive, who had died in 1974, confirmed his presence. On the strength of this, one of Koenig's associates Dr Ernst Senkowski, a physics lecturer, electronics expert and veteran EVP researcher, persuaded George Meek to fly to Germany. 

After a demonstration of the Koenig's Generator, Meek flew back convinced it was genuine and set about raising money to fund future work. Further research has been carried on by others in the field of electronics and radio who also have an interest in contacts with spirits. 

Experiments held at a mansion in Newport Rhode Island have yielded some interesting results involving paranormal activity and the use of Shortwave Radio as a possible means of communication with other realities. 

A research team led by Steve Cerilli has determined that tube based short-wave radios can provide a communication link with other planes of existence and their inhabitants. Recordings made on October 3, 1999 demonstrate that spirit entities can manipulate shortwave radios. 

Curiously, the spirits present on that night learned how to better interact with the shortwave as the session progressed. By the end of the experiment, the entire room was awash with a form of static/electromagnetic energy. The tapes of this experiment are still undeveloped at this time. 

Development of a paranormal recording involves re-dubbing the tape i.e. making multiple generations for reasons unknown. Research will be hopefully completed by the end of the decade. 

A series of questions scripted by the research team were read by the owner of the location, which is known for its paranormal activity. The spirits were addressed and asked to participate in the experiment. The method of recording and equipment being used was then described. The questions asked were Socratic in nature, which means that they lead the listener to a revelation, each question building upon the former. 

As a result of these experiments, all paranormal activity in the castle has stopped. It was the intention of the researchers to help these entities by achieving contact. The researchers felt that the spirits were somehow trapped or lost in between dimensions. 

One possible scenario for disturbed spirit presences and haunting's is that due to a tragic event in an individuals lifetime, the desire to remain on this plane of time creates a state of suspension. Spirits in this suspended state become prisoners of their own inability to let go. 

It is believe that by establishing a communication link with the shortwave and asking relevant questions (Socratic method), lost spirits can be freed from their suspended state and made aware that there is nothing outside their own consciousness holding them back. 

One of the participants, Jennipher Roos, described her experience that night.

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"After spending the time it took to set up the equipment in the ballroom - about an hour, I walked outside to clear my thoughts and energy centers. 

"Upon returning to the room, I could immediately feel changing vibrations with myself. I walked around the perimeter of the room in attempt to familiarize myself with my surroundings. I noticed a particularly strong feeling -highly sensational -in the corner of the room leading into the master bedroom. 

"The only color of light I noticed before the experiments began, was a slight brightness in that corner of no particular color. The light surrounding the people participating in the study was nothing worth noting nothing out of the ordinary. 

"During the first session, recording only, I was not aware of any overwhelming presence or energy disturbances. I was sitting on the floor -to the left of the Mayan sculpture. I felt centered and secure at all times; and although the room was highly charged, I cannot report any great shifts in the overall energy of the space and no specific concentrations of electromagnetism. The only notable change I observed was that the light in the corner of the room by the master bedroom had increased in intensity and now had a slightly bluish tinge. 

"The next session, which involved the short wave radio was quite an experience for me personally. I had moved to the corner of the room which I previously described as highly active. 

"Once I was centered on the floor and the questions began I could immediately sense a presence of some kind. A slight vibration moved from the floor, through my bottom and thighs, up my spine and into my head. This sensation was exceptionally strong and caused all of my hairs to stand on end. 

"I placed my hands palm down on the floor in front of me and received the same sensation through my hands and arms, which heightened incredibly the overall effect. I could see luminous light all around me and when I moved my hand in front of me, the light attached itself to me and left a streak of light, like a tracer, in its path of movement. 

"The short-wave radio was definitely receiving some sort of transmission amongst the white noise, but it was very faint deviations to me. However, about half-way through this session I began to hear other noises in the room. 

"The best way I can describe them is like a low tone of church bells played very slowly...almost like a drone, but in a pattern that was repeatedly louder at the beginning of each "chime." This sound was moving throughout the room in a circular fashion, like in stereo surround. 

"As I focused all of my concentration and energy on the light and this sound, the short wave seemed to become more effected and I could definitely feel an increase of electromagnetic energy as the session progressed. At one point I was fairly overwhelmed with the feeling of it all...my body hair was on end for the entire session. 

"I never observed any other colors at this time, nor did I feel that any of the participants, including myself were in any sort of danger. This part of the experiment was definitely the most powerful for me. 

"I moved to the floor between the two aforementioned chairs and it was at this time that I started to notice huge changes in the short wave's regularity as the speaker asked direct questions to specific pieces. 

"The shortwave's inflections were very quick after each question was asked, which indicates that perhaps the life forms are a bit more responsive when singled out individually. 

"When the speaker addressed the Mayan statue, I observed it radiating a light that is best described as a dull-reddish magenta color. The light fully surrounded the Mayan and streamed off a bit in the direction of the microphone, but did not get close to it. this light remained until the session was over."

Instrumental Transcommunication (ITC) 

In 1985 Swiss electronics expert, Klaus Schreiber who, as a result of studying George Meek's Spiricom designs, invented an apparatus he called "Vidicom." The Vidicom consisted of a specially adapted TV, switched on but not attached to an aerial, with a video camera in front of it to capture images that appeared on the screen. One of the first pictures he received was a blurred, fleeting image of a human figure. 

Occasionally just voices would come across, telling him how to tune his TV for better reception. A typical session would begin with a TV screen full of dots. Then small ovals would appear one after another, each growing quickly until they disappeared off the screen. Within minutes faces would start to appear along with voices, to the astonishment of Schreiber himself and his visitors. 

It wasn't long after Shreiber death in 1988 that his image started appearing on the TV screens of Europe's ITC researchers. Schreiber's friend Martin Wenzel continued his work with some success, but as with Spiricom the Schreiber method, to work effectively, needed to be used by someone with the sensitivity of a psychic and strong mediumistic links with other planes of existence. 

In April 1990 George Meek's wife Jeanette died after a long illness. Before she crossed over, however, Meek had asked her to get firmly in mind the names TimeStream (a spirit-side sending station linked to a young, leading-edge research laboratory in Luxembourg) and Swejen Salter (the system's operator and research director on the spirit side). Hopefully these memories would act as a homing device once she crossed over, pulling Jeannette to the research station. 

It apparently worked; three months after Jeannette's funeral she reportedly had located the TimeStream station and sent the following letter to George via the Luxembourg computer:

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"DEAR G.W. - WELL, IT SEEMS THERE ARE STILL PEOPLE WHO DO NOT BELIEVE IN THE CONTACTS YOUR FRIENDS HERE IN LUXEMBOURG ARE HAVING. HENCE I WILL GIVE YOU SOME PERSONAL DETAILS KNOWN ONLY TO YOU AND MOLLY. 

"FIRST STORY. IN 1987, END OF APRIL, OUR TENANT DEBBIE CALLED TO SAY HER REFRIGERATOR WAS OFF. IT MUST HAVE BEEN ON A THURSDAY MORNING... 

"SECOND STORY. ON APRIL 29, 1987, ANN VALENTIN WROTE A LETTER FORM CALIFORNIA SAYING SHE HAD NOT RECEIVED THE MAGIC OF LIVING FOREVER BOOKLETS SHE HAD ORDERED, BUT INSTEAD HAD RECEIVED A BOX OF HARLEQUIN NOVELS. 

"THIRD STORY. JOHN LATHROP SHUTOFF THE ELECTRICITY AT OUR RENTAL HOUSE TO PUT IN THE NEW YARD LIGHT, HE WASN'T DOWN THERE VERY LONG BUT CHARGED $20 SERVICE IN ADDITION TO $40 FOR THE BULBS, PLUS TAX. THE CHARGE SEEMED HIGH. 

"DON'T TRY TO EXPLAIN THIS, HONEY, MY NEVER-ENDING LOVE TO YOU. I MISS YOU SO MUCH, BUT I KNOW WE WILL BE TOGETHER. LOVE FOREVER, JEANNETTE DUNCAN MEEK."
To support the validity of the ITC contact, Jeannette had selected three very private items known only to the Meeks and their secretary Molly Philo. The second item about romance novels, in fact, was a complete puzzle even to George. 

Upon receiving Jeannette's letter from the Luxembourg team and getting his excitement under control, Meek called Ann Valentinin California to verify item two. Sure enough, a carton of novels had arrived mysteriously in 1987, and to this day no one knows who sent them. 

The most exciting and potentially fruitful development is that of communication via computer. Ken Webster of England published a book in which he reported on more than 200 computer contacts with local persons who had died more than three centuries ago. 

One of Webster's main contacts was 16th century Englishman Thomas Harden, who had lived in the same house that Webster now resided in, when the town was still named Bristol. From the astral planes, Harden could see Webster's electronic equipment in the living room. 

He referred to the computer as a box with a multitude of lights sitting near my chimney. Harden would communicate in old English grammar in a variety of ways -telepathic messages, scribbles on note paper, chalk-written messages on the floor and, most important, computer files written on the display screen and generated on hard disk. 

Harden later was reported to have explained to his earth-side colleague Webster that the writing was formed according to his will or his visualization in the "Lightbox." Another interesting feature was that Harden said that he wasn't a discarnate entity, communicating from the beyond. Instead he claimed to be speaking from his own time in the 17th century. So rather then talking with the dead, this seems to be a case of time travel. 

During the 1980's psychic researchers became aware of claims that various people had received telephone calls from loved ones after they had died. The calls were usually only of short duration and when investigated did not register on normal telephone monitoring equipment. This subject was extensively covered by D. Scott Rogo in his book Telephone Calls From The Dead. (1979). 

A husband and wife couple working in Luxembourg between 1985 and 1988 along with helpers from the afterlife, developed two electronic systems which became significantly more reliable and repeatable than the systems developed earlier. 

Jules and Maggie Harsch-Fishbach in 1987 established computer contact which allows submission of technical questions with high speed print-out of the carefully considered replies. Also in 1987 they got TV picture sequences of good quality (Psychic News February 25th 1995). 

By 1993 the research team in the afterlife was able to access the hard drives of computers and leave detailed, computer-scanned images as well as several pages of text. The computer-scanned images were far more detailed and less subject to distortion than the video images. Researchers on earth were able to direct questions to their counterparts on the other side and receive answers by telephone, radio, TV, computer, or fax (Kubris and Macy 1995: 14). 

Dominic RMacquarie stated in the November 15, 1997 issue of Psychic News that communication between the earth plane and the afterlife is more successful when there is a mediumistic person, who has more than average ectoplasm present. This had earlier been confirmed by Konstantine, Raudive, German Professor E Senkowski and George Meek. 

The need to have some form of electromagnetic energy present has always been recognized as an essential component of EVP. Macquarie claims that experimenters since 1963 have obtained better results if they turn on three twelve volt transformers (the kind which change household voltage to lower voltage for portable radios, CD players etc.) within 3 to 4 inches (8-12cms) of each other.

 
They produce a very quiet hum which provides a weak gentle field of electromagnetic energy which can be used by discarnate entities.
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"One has always to keep in mind that whilst ectoplasm and electromagnetic energy must be present when communicating with the afterlife, an experimenter who is negative and uses the presumption of futility will be exuding negative energy and will dramatically reduce successful communication," says Macquarie. "This 'experimenter effect' has been found in mediumship, laboratory testing and when using electronic equipment. 

"So even though communication can occur through television, radio equipment and the telephone, the clarity of transmission depends on the contact field, the thoughts of those receiving the transmission. It has been discovered at large open meetings, that if a group of people had negative thoughts about ITC, their negative vibrations seriously affected the vibrations coming from the astral plane."
Even though Nikola Tesla in his early years had little patience with those who believed in spirits and unknown psychic abilities, he may have had a change of heart later in his life and after leaving the physical plane. In 1998, a medium by the name of Alice Cromley alleged that she had made contact with the spirit of Tesla through electronic methods similar to what Tesla used. 

In a series of communications, all conducted at a secure home in Montreal, Canada, Mrs. Cromley received information concerning Tesla's continued existence after his death and the new discoveries that awaited him on the other side.

 
Tesla was apparently eager to tell those interested in his life and science, not to dismiss ideas that appear supernatural or not of science.
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PostSubject: Re: Gang-stalking and the low frequency hive mind: Demons or tech?   Sat Jul 04, 2015 11:42 pm

I was athiest before they used Voice of God weapon on me. When god speaks to you with infinite loudness you tend to take the bible more seriously.

I had information that seems related to the Kaballah projected into my head. Even predicted one false flag in the "dreams" that I had.

But in the end, after reading Dr Robert Duncan, I think most of my experience is derived from technology.

Here's an example, one time I was being tortured, and I suddenly felt very solid and happy, like an angel had somehow gone into my body to be tortured in my place. And yet a few months later I had that same solid feeling, and realised it was just them using some technology (for example, passing electric current through my body but not strong enough to cause pain). Does that mean angels don't exist? No. If the CIA can do it, why not God? But I think we have to look at our experiences and what beliefs they led us to and look at the pattern of CIA testing weapons to change the belief systems of the target.

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Suspected Boston marathon bomber Tamerlan Tsarnaev believed that he was a victim of mind control, according to the results of a five month investigation published yesterday by the Boston Globe.
Tsarnaev, who was killed in a shootout with police four days after allegedly carrying out the bombings with his brother Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, was thought to have “some form of schizophrenia,” according to family friends, while his mother said Tsarnaev “felt like there were two people living inside of him.”
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“He believed in majestic mind control, which is a way of breaking down a person and creating an alternative personality with which they must coexist,” Donald Larking, a 67-year-old who attended a Boston mosque with Tamerlan, told the Globe. “You can give a signal, a phrase or a gesture, and bring out the alternate personality and make them do things. Tamerlan thought someone might have done that to him.”

DrRobert Duncan is your first port of call:

http://thoughtlessness23.blogspot.com.au/

Lots of info, and all very credible. But I certaintly can't say it's the end all on the topic. There's always other views that are interesting. The first is that it may be possibly augmented by nanotech.

http://thethrowaways.freeforums.net/thread/49/all-turning-cyborgs

The second is the technology may be possessed by ancient civilisations and aliens (though I have trouble believing this!)

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Shaver by his own admission had been in communication with the welding torch at his job.

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/10/25/return-of-the-titans/

I am reading a lot of your articles. The info I have given you doesn't really contradict that there are cults and freemasons. It just slightly alters how they operate. While there are lots of pedo freemasons and people they are blackmailing, it's not 50% of the population. Instead they can jack in to peoples heads using TAMI to make random people give you freemason signs to give you that impression. From The Matrix Deciphered:

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Two people on different days walked by me and said, “You are going to have a psychotic break. You are a psychopath.” The first time it happened I assumed the person was talking on a cell phone and I didn't see the headset.

The global system, TAMI, can hone in on a compatible mind and instantly be able to manipulate it to some varying degree dependent upon many factors. The offense practices their trade by influencing people near a targeted individual to convey information only pertinent to them, for spy games. These people are everyday citizens unfamiliar with this high technology. The effects are so subtle without lots of training to detect, nobody would be the wiser. They would at most just question why they did that or felt the need to say that.

The third category of stalkers is the most disturbing. True zombies are created through the “voice of god” microwave hearing effects. Some people become complete believers that God is talking to them and telling them what to do, be it follow someone or kill on command. John Lennon’s killer claimed voices kept saying “do it, do it” over and over again. TAMI came on line in 1976, and John Lennon was killed in 1980.
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PostSubject: Re: Gang-stalking and the low frequency hive mind: Demons or tech?   Sun Jul 05, 2015 12:19 am

The other thing is apparently meditation (I do this) and pot (I don't do this) can make it harder for them to "allocate" you which I assume means control your mind so you go on a fixed career path/life plan.

This is from a leaked Government document. It's worth reading, you'll see lots of parrallels to Fight Club:

[url=http://www.stopthecrime.net/COMM 12 BRIEFING001 %281%29.pdf]www.stopthecrime.net/COMM%2012%20BRIEFING001%20(1).pdf[/url]
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PostSubject: Re: Gang-stalking and the low frequency hive mind: Demons or tech?   Sun Jul 05, 2015 8:17 pm

Yeah Drut. They recently tried to mind control me a couple of weeks ago and get me to join the BIG BOYS I nearly lost my focus for a moment and become 'one of them'..... submerged into their hive-mind.

Fortunately I hooked up with my mate downstairs and got myself some lovely jubbly local honey hash and now they can't touch me.....  I transcend their control attempts now. I could control them all if I wanted... but using psychic gifts for control of others is not my scene. 

I'll write this stuff all up soon. It's quite a story. 

Thanks for your contributions to the forum mate. All greatly appreciated.

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PostSubject: Re: Gang-stalking and the low frequency hive mind: Demons or tech?   Sun Jul 05, 2015 8:20 pm

BTW up to 50 percent of the population is the portion I consider 'plugged into the darkness' whether knowingly or not.

Whether they know it or not they serve the darkness and as such, are an enemy to the children of Light who they will put down, damage, infect and generally try to bring down to their level.

The fully psychic Illuminati people however could be as many as 10 percent....

In some place (such as the city of London) and various international organisations (such as my business the TEFL world) the number is much much higher. Perhaps as high as 50 percent.

Different sectors seem to act as natural nests for these people, anywhere with power and influence will be infested with these psychic Illuminati people.

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PostSubject: Re: Gang-stalking and the low frequency hive mind: Demons or tech?   Sun Jul 05, 2015 8:23 pm

BTW Drut, don't put all your eggs in one basket.

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PostSubject: Re: Gang-stalking and the low frequency hive mind: Demons or tech?   Mon Jul 06, 2015 3:01 am

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BTW Drut, don't put all your eggs in one basket."

I get that point of view. There's another guy Barrie Trower who confirms what Duncan says, but Trower's main concern is wifi/mobiles cause cancer.

One problem with sampling random opinions on gangstalking and looking for the average is that the disinformation guys have a way bigger budget than the guys who know the truth. Hence the disinfo to info is like 99:1

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Information warfare works as an internet strategy according to war college documents by having people chase the white rabbit around the endless maze of disinformation so that they can't even tell what is true anymore. The only people who research these topics are the thousands of victims. No one else takes an interest. Why isn't virtual reality and neural computer interfacing of interest to entrepreneurs or academic researchers? It has already been demonstrated to work so the research would pay off handsomely for whom ever cracked the brain code. The CIA/DoD figured it out well over 30 years ago. Surely it can't be that difficult with the right equipment. This is how freedom of speech is destroyed by self attack of information warfare on the U.S. that they market as "strategic deception". Just remember there is more than one way to skin a rabbit.

When one becomes part of the TAMI network, one naturally goes to the internet for information. I found many documents in the military information warfare strategy that talk about how to lead the enemy down fruitless paths of research with slightly erroneous logic that leads to an endless maze of false assumptions and deductions. This is part of the strategic deception initiatives launched on the American people. This disinformation warfare has confused and stupefied many people. Helping them sound crazy about the science behind their predicament. Col. Thomas Bearding is the perfect example of this initiative. He invented the concept of “scalar waves” and weapons that he warns the Russians possess and U.S. scientists know nothing about. He talks about weather and earthquake weapons and zero point energy. He has a good education in physics so I can’t come to any other conclusion than he is a disinformation agent or a victim of menticide. All his theories are so purposefully skewed. Since he talks about mind control and then discusses all these ridiculous scientific ideas about free energy, faster than light information propagation, and electromagnetic vortexes, the mere idea of mind control weapons is also put into question. This is “the classic method” of discrediting a topic.

The [sole] goal of these groups in psychological warfare, CIA mind control, and INSCOM’s stragetic deception is to create errors of judgment and reasoning and vocabulary confusion by every means possible. They have perfected control of the media through leaks and strategically placed disinformers in the industry. They have perfected disinformation on the internet using “the method” that plays off of people’s black and white thinking by flooding it with partial truths and lies. And finally they have found a way to inject by electromagnetics errors into people’s brains directly using misnamed umbrella classifications of technology like “nonlethal weapons” which contains EEG heterodyning, psychic warfare, and another overlapped classification of “directed energy” weapons. They have used the pseudo sciences of the psychology community to create and propagate misdiagnosis of weapons testing effects as mental illness. They have used Hollywood and television to program the masses to discredit anyone who talks about something that was labeled as a work of fiction, such as a movie or shown on the science fiction channel.


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PostSubject: Re: Gang-stalking and the low frequency hive mind: Demons or tech?   Fri Jul 24, 2015 2:42 pm

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The CIA mind control technology works via satellite, ground based radar etc.

Street tramp can read mind - how? Because CIA reads person's A mind using satellite, then decodes the information, then uses a matrix to translate that information so person B can understand it, then uses satellite to project into person's B mind.

If the Illuminatti could read minds for thousands of years why was Hitler betrayed? Couldn't he have read the betrayer's mind? Or the French King, why didn't he read/control the minds of the Freemasons?

Look at Karin Catherine Waldegrave's writing. She had the "descended from nobility" script same as you, but she at least knew it was remote sensing EMR technology. Lots of people fall for the occult script, no shame in that, it's partially true. See Lt Col Michael Aquino, He's both a satanist and headed NSA.

Sorry for the delay in replying..... You ask some good questions....

I can only surmise about the answers of course but the thing about Illuminati mind-reading is that you have to be in magnetic resonance for them to be able to read your mind.

You have to be on the same vibratory level as them in order for them to be able to read you.

Like a magnetic resonance/sympathy type thing.

This is why they do initiations and things, so they are vibrating on the same sympathetic frequency. 

'On the level'.

I only learned this recently after bumping into some spooky people in London..... I don't have all the answers but I like to think I'm getting there.

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PostSubject: Re: Gang-stalking and the low frequency hive mind: Demons or tech?   Sat Jul 25, 2015 12:35 am

Yeah I don't know how it works for everyone, they do different things depending on the Scripts they are using, or the weapons they are testing, or the goal they have (eg. make you go postal, turn you into a stalker etc. etc.)

The closest thing I had to ritual is the dream manipulation - when I would wake up after a satanic dream the waking would be done by creating the sensation of being spun, hung upside down, and my legs would be in a 4 position.

Can't say I figured the system out though Dr. Duncan's book helps a lot. Still lots of gaps for example in Shutter Island, is the wife a hallucination created by the handler's? Do they use daydreams about ex girlffriends or whatever as a carrot to lead you astray?

"you're like a rat in a fucking maze. you have to let her go"
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PostSubject: Re: Gang-stalking and the low frequency hive mind: Demons or tech?   Sat Jul 25, 2015 10:53 am

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Yeah I don't know how it works for everyone, they do different things depending on the Scripts they are using, or the weapons they are testing, or the goal they have (eg. make you go postal, turn you into a stalker etc. etc.)

The closest thing I had to ritual is the dream manipulation - when I would wake up after a satanic dream the waking would be done by creating the sensation of being spun, hung upside down, and my legs would be in a 4 position.

Can't say I figured the system out though Dr. Duncan's book helps a lot. Still lots of gaps for example in Shutter Island, is the wife a hallucination created by the handler's? Do they use daydreams about ex girlffriends or whatever as a carrot to lead you astray?

"you're like a rat in a fucking maze. you have to let her go"

Great post...... Whatever the cause of this stuff I think it's safe to say we're dealing with the same phenomenon.  I'm gonna put a new post up on my blog soon about meeting a bunch of OTO people at a Camden club who tried to recruit me and 'bring me down to their level'. There was a fat middle-aged Israeli coordinating them and a bunch of black guys providing them all with cocaine to bring the edge off their symptoms..... I think the black guys were also a bit of 'muscle' to keep them in line. They even held a black gang initiation in the toilets. I went in there and they all came out, one guy was freaking out and they just told me he had had too much to drink. There was a rubber glove left in the urinal (I took a photo) I think you can probably guess what went on in there. Freaks.

  

Still, it's all a bit of an adventure dealing with this stuff though perhaps more than a little dangerous at times, seeing all this stuff then saying 'see ya, wouldn't wanna be ya'... but yeah, these guys seemed to be capable of psychic communication, and they seem to act like a hive mind, it's weird, they're like a flock of birds, they all appear and disappear and play their part in the script without any verbal cues... Then there was a sort of 'showdown' between me and this Israeli guy when one minute the outside of the pub was full of people drinking and smoking, then suddenly as soon as he stepped up to address me and make his recruitment pitch and explain 'their side of the story', everyone else instantly scattered leaving just him and me and a few others on the periphery who were monitoring the situation. 

Afterwards they offered me cocaine and brought out a bunch of girls.... one of them clearly 12 years old or something to 'see what I was into' fucking grotesque. I hate these people.
 
Their attempts to suck me into their magnetic resonance field failed because my mind is like an steel safe these days. They still try though....and I go ahead and write it all down. But when I was in Tokyo being trained to join the Illumies I was told I was 'half in and half out' and I guess I must still be somehow wandering around in some sort of unclosed magic circle or something, surfing the edge of the underworld.... It's kinda fun, except when you see them using kids as some sort of 'bait'..... that's pretty fucked.

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PostSubject: Re: Gang-stalking and the low frequency hive mind: Demons or tech?   Sun Jul 26, 2015 12:30 am

Afterwards they offered me cocaine and brought out a bunch of girls.... one of them clearly 12 years old or something to 'see what I was into' fucking grotesque. I hate these people.


That shit is creepy. Someone said something similar to me and at the time I was like "I don't believe you" but yeah, I definitely think that's what they can do. You know Jimmy Savil scandal kind of proves it. It's about control through blackmail. The other reason is if you go to people and say some shit like "OMG the CIA mind controls kids to follow me into toilets" people who hear that story will think you're a sick delusional pedophile right? I don't know whether they do that but that was what I was told and some weird things happened that suggested to me it's possible. Apparently using TAMI they can jack into everyone's heads for short periods of time leaving little memory of what the person did. But yeah like I've never explicitly had people try to recruit me into a cult but I know there's a guy on 420chan/tinfoil who told it like it was all cults and cult people. It could be different mechanisms that are used on people differently depending on scripts, but also, just to create "noise" in gangstalking victims testimony, so it is harder for the public to believe them all. Comm 12 mind control briefing discusses how the CIA set up many kinds of cults:

http://www.stopthecrime.net/COMM%2012%20BRIEFING001%20(1).pdf
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PostSubject: Re: Gang-stalking and the low frequency hive mind: Demons or tech?   Sun Jul 26, 2015 6:46 pm

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Afterwards they offered me cocaine and brought out a bunch of girls.... one of them clearly 12 years old or something to 'see what I was into' fucking grotesque. I hate these people.


That shit is creepy. Someone said something similar to me and at the time I was like "I don't believe you" but yeah, I definitely think that's what they can do. You know Jimmy Savil scandal kind of proves it. It's about control through blackmail. The other reason is if you go to people and say some shit like "OMG the CIA mind controls kids to follow me into toilets" people who hear that story will think you're a sick delusional pedophile right? I don't know whether they do that but that was what I was told and some weird things happened that suggested to me it's possible. Apparently using TAMI they can jack into everyone's heads for short periods of time leaving little memory of what the person did. But yeah like I've never explicitly had people try to recruit me into a cult but I know there's a guy on 420chan/tinfoil who told it like it was all cults and cult people. It could be different mechanisms that are used on people differently depending on scripts, but also, just to create "noise" in gangstalking victims testimony, so it is harder for the public to believe them all. Comm 12 mind control briefing discusses how the CIA set up many kinds of cults:


http://www.stopthecrime.net/COMM%2012%20BRIEFING001%20(1).pdf


The thing about it is that it was an Israeli who seemed to be in charge of it all that night in Camden (and it was literally less than a week ago so it's all quite fresh in my mind)

Also if we remember that Savile addressed the Knesset and lectured the Israelis on how to be Jews.....

It makes me deeply uncomfortably to confront this reality but to what extent is one supposed to remain 'politically correct' despite the glaring weight of evidence that Israel seems to be heavily implicated in all this sort of thing.

Is this why all the politicians kowtow to Israel and merrily launch their wars against Muslims all over the world. Because all the world leaders are compromised by the fact that they once has sex with a 12 year old girl?

I suspect this is the key. 

And for me Israel isn't about Jews but about FAKE Jews. Those who have hijacked an ancient and noble culture for their own evil ends.

And is the 'hive-mind'  and the use of traumatic paedophilia, guilt and mutated sexuality part of the so called ancient wisdom of the 'Qabalah'? I bet it ruddy well is.

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PostSubject: Re: Gang-stalking and the low frequency hive mind: Demons or tech?   Sun Jul 26, 2015 11:57 pm

Yep you should read articles on Veterans Today to get more background info on Zionists using pedophilia to blackmail politicians. If a politician goes to Israel, they drug him, film him having sex with an underage kid, then they 'own' that politician through blackmail.

If you want to be "PC" there is supposedly also a nazi organisation that does this as well. Apparently the Nazis didn't lose ww2, they just moved. There is much less evidence for this DVD organisation than the Zionist criminal who are in your face 24/7 (see dancing israelis on 911 etc)
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PostSubject: Re: Gang-stalking and the low frequency hive mind: Demons or tech?   Mon Jul 27, 2015 12:20 pm

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Yep you should read articles on Veterans Today to get more background info on Zionists using pedophilia to blackmail politicians. If a politician goes to Israel, they drug him, film him having sex with an underage kid, then they 'own' that politician through blackmail.

If you want to be "PC" there is supposedly also a nazi organisation that does this as well. Apparently the Nazis didn't lose ww2, they just moved. There is much less evidence for this DVD organisation than the Zionist criminal who are in your face 24/7 (see dancing israelis on 911 etc)

Wow Veteran's Today are exposing this stuff huh?

Wow..... Thanks for giving me the 'PC' get-out option too.

So yeah, it's not just about 'Jews' or 'Zionists' in particular, but this is something ALL the evil feckers get up to.... Just seems at the moment that the evil feckers are heavily invested in Israel.... so they're using their evil tried and tested means....

I wonder if the SS had a similar system..... I read a book about Nazis called 'Bodyguard of Lies' which stated that once an officer has undergone the SS Initiation there was no turning back for him and he was under COMPLETE control... I wonder if the SS got up to the same foul stuff as the Zionists and their lackeys.... Ironic huh....supposedly being polar opposites but basically made of the same sort of evil and using the same methods.

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PostSubject: Re: Gang-stalking and the low frequency hive mind: Demons or tech?   Tue Jul 28, 2015 12:05 am

aangirfan blog is another good source. Henry Markow blog is another source. So is real jew news.

There were a lot of Jews in Hitlers army. Hitler can be seen reading a talmuld or something in one photograph lol .

The polar opposites things is exaggerated due to the holocaust story.

At first Hitler was set up by the Jews, they only turned on him a) to increase communism, and b) because his economic system was too successful.

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PostSubject: Re: Gang-stalking and the low frequency hive mind: Demons or tech?   Wed Jul 29, 2015 11:04 am

Man, you should let me know next time your inna da Laaarndon. Especially Camden, as I'm a North Londoner. We'll go for a hyperspherical drink or ten.
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PostSubject: Re: Gang-stalking and the low frequency hive mind: Demons or tech?   Wed Jul 29, 2015 11:19 am

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Man, you should let me know next time your inna da Laaarndon. Especially Camden, as I'm a North Londoner. We'll go for a hyperspherical drink or ten.

You bet..... but be careful...weird things tend to happen around me.... better bring your space-suit...lol

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