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PostSubject: Who or what was Adam and Eve?   Sun Mar 01, 2015 11:31 pm

Adam means 'man' in Turkish and Hebrew.

Adam was just presumably the first man.

Perhaps the story of Adam and Eve is representative the dawning of some new kind of awareness.

When mankind 'woke-up' from the animal Kingdom and for the first time became more able to imagine transcending their environment.

Something like this seems to have happened between 50,000 and 12,000 years ago. It's all a bit of a mystery. There was certainly a flood. This event was the end of the last Ice-Age resulted when melted polar ice caused a huge raise in the levels of seas and rivers. Leading to extensive flooding in low lying areas. This happened 10,500. So post 10,500 BC we can assume to be the era of Noah, or whatever his real name is, the Bablyonians called him Ut-Napishtim. Well, at least there's an 'N' in there..... So Mr N built an ark.

It's weird. The dawn of man is really a big mystery and the theory of evolution just raises more questions than it answers.

Darwin was totally wrong about unconscious evolution, it is CONSCIOUS evolution.

Every being in the universe is trying to physically evolve in order to access more photonic energy for that creature.

Everything in creation is trying to access more light. Light of course being the base food stuff of every living creature. Whether it be the photonic energy of a leaf, or that of an animal whose body has absorbed the light energy and whose muscles are a store-house of energy.


BTW Bible naysayers, take a look at the following. By no means do I believe the Old Testament to be the literal word of God, but it is a valuable historical document.

This story is interesting.... Look at the skeptical Freemason academiatard deny the reality what is in his very hands. An instructive lesson on Freemasonic mind control and bare-faced lying.

http://www.theguardian.com/culture/2...british-museum

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Babylonian tablet shows how Noah's ark could have been constructed
British Museum expert says 3,700-year-old instructions describe how to build round boat – but he does not believe ark existed
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Irving Finkel with the cuneiform clay tablet at the British Museum. Photograph: Sang Tan/AP
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Noah's ark was never built, still less crash landed on Mount Ararat, a British Museum expert has declared – despite holding in his hand 3,700-year-old instructions on exactly how to construct one.

"I am 107% convinced the ark never existed," Irving Finkel said. His discoveries, since a member of the public brought a battered clay tablet with 60 lines of neat cuneiform text to Finkel – one of the few people in the world who could read them – are outlined in a new book, The Ark Before Noah.

While every child's toy and biblical illustration – and the latest film version, due for release later this month and starring Russell Crowe as Noah – shows a big pointy-ended wooden boat, the Babylonian tablet gives what Finkel is convinced is the original version of the story.

The ark is a huge circular coracle, 3,600 square metres in dimension or two-thirds the size of a football pitch, made like a giant rope basket strengthened with wooden ribs, and waterproofed with bitumen inside and out. This was a giant version of a craft which the Babylonians knew very well, Finkel pointed out, in daily use up to the late 20th century to transport people and animals across rivers.

Its people-and-animal-carrying abilities will soon be put to the test: the production company Blink is making a Channel 4 documentary based on his research, including building a circular ark.

The tablet gives a version of the ark story far older than the biblical accounts, and Finkel believes the explanation of how "holy writ appears on this piece of Weetabix", is that the writers of the Bible drew on ancient accounts encountered by Hebrew scholars during the Babylonian exile.

Texts about a great flood and the order by God to the one just man to build a boat and save himself, his family, and all the animals, clearly older than the Bible story, were first found in the Middle East in the 19th century. They caused both consternation and wild excitement, including an expedition to find the broken part of one tablet in a mountain of shattered clay fragments.

However, the tablet studied by Finkel is unique, the only one with precise instructions on how to build the ark – and the crucial detail that it should be circular. He believes the data on its exact dimensions, the two kinds of bitumen, and the precise amount of rope needed, are evidence not that the vessel once existed, but of a storyteller adding convincing details for an audience that knew all about boat-building.

The tablet was brought to him on a museum open day by Douglas Simmons, whose father, Leonard, brought it back to England in a tea-chest full of curios, after wartime service in the Middle East with the RAF.

When the Guardian originally broke the story of its discovery, Simmons said his father had once showed his treasures to some academics, and was bitterly disappointed when they were dismissed as rubbish. He suspects the tablet was either bought for pennies in a bazaar or literally picked up.

Finkel describes the clay tablet as "one of the most important human documents ever discovered", and his conclusions will send ripples into the world of creationism and among ark hunters, where many believe in the literal truth of the Bible account, and innumerable expeditions have been mounted to try to find the remains of the ark.

The clay tablet is going on display at the British Museum, loaned by Simmons, beside a tablet from the museum's collection with the earliest map of the world, as seen from ancient Babylon. The flood tablet helped explain details of the map, which shows islands beyond the river marking the edge of the known world, with the text on the back explaining that on one are the remains of the ark.

Finkel said that not only did the ark never exist, but ark hunters were looking in the wrong place – the map shows the ark in the direction of, but far beyond the mountain range later known as Ararat.

• The Ark Before Noah: Decoding the Story of the Flood, by Irving Finkel, Hodder & Stoughton
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PostSubject: Re: Who or what was Adam and Eve?   Wed Mar 18, 2015 2:51 pm

How can you trust someone who says "I'm 107% convinced"
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PostSubject: Re: Who or what was Adam and Eve?   Sun Jun 28, 2015 2:22 pm

Pre-Adamic human races existed on Earth....after all how could Adam and Eve's son Cain disappear and find a wife with whom he bore Enoch. Enoch then apparently built a city..... so which people did he built a city for if there were only 5 people on Earth at that time? So what or who is Adam and Eve supposed to represent?

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PostSubject: Re: Who or what was Adam and Eve?   Thu Jul 09, 2015 1:07 pm

I am not entirely convinced that the translation of Nachash into the word 'Snake' in Genesis is correct, it's likely a mistranslation.

Nachash equally means 'enchantment' or 'the Occult'.

So if we reread Genesis that Adam and Eve were tempted by The Occult and sought the wisdom of good and evil... leading them to lose their original connection to God.

This makes much more sense than stories of talking snakes.


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nachash: to practice divination, observe signs
Original Word: נָחַשׁ
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: nachash
Phonetic Spelling: (naw-khash')
Short Definition: divination
NAS Exhaustive Concordance
Word Origin
a prim. root
Definition
to practice divination, observe signs
NASB Translation
divination (1), divined (1), enchantments (1), indeed practice divination (1), indeed uses (1), interprets omens (1), practice divination (1), took as an omen (1), used divination (2).

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PostSubject: Re: Who or what was Adam and Eve?   Sun Sep 27, 2015 5:24 pm

The sixth day of creation:

Gen 1:27  So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

God rested the seventh day.  The first chapter of Genesis is just a synopsis.  The second chapter starts the detail of what exactly was done and how.  Keep in mind that man is male and female and they are created animals, like Neaderthals, erect hominids.  Evolution is true to a point, but it is what you evolve into.  Adam, man, is the male and the female mankind.
Adam was given a task in the beginning.  And that task was to name all creatures to find a helpmate, whatever that means.  So the male and female named, classified, and cataloged everything.  You know, you look out at all the creatures and you see they do not need anything but what God supplies them with.  And we are told in the Bible that that is so.  God clothes the animals and gives them food and shelter and all.

 Gen 2:18  And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.

That must mean something different than is casually perceived.  The Bible tells you that God is man's everpresent help, does it not?  Maybe that can be taken to mean that God will create your help, your aid.  But then, God did not want the male and female to be 'alone.'  What does that mean?  The Hebrew word for 'alone' is 'bad' and it means that God did not think it was beneficial for man to be a separate part of creation.  In other words, man was not anything more than the mind of creatures.  Man was the dominant mind of the creatures as meant by:

Gen 1:26  And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

What does the Bible tell you about what God looks like, what his shape is?

Col_1:15  Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:

And we are told that:

Luk_17:21  Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

What does the kingdom of God consist of?  Now what I am going to say may be taken wrong, but Adam is the man, the mind, and the woman is the body.  Here is why I think that:

Gen 2:23  And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.
Gen 2:24  Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.

And also,

Gen 3:6  And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.

It was not until the man and woman were cast out of the garden that the man named the woman Eve.  That is a clue to whom Adam and Eve are.  All of us say that Eve is a separate being than Adam, right?  That is true, but that is not something made by God.  Eve is the result of eating the fruit of the tree of good and evil. 
One thing to consider though.  The woman, the body, first heard something in the mind and directed the body to see something which caused the mind to generate an emotion, a mental liking and a desire to be wise . . .
But, that is the whole matter, the desire to be wise.  We know and are told that we have to get wisdom.

Pro 4:7  Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding.

But we are told to call wisdom something:

Pro 7:4  Say unto wisdom, Thou art my sister; and call understanding thy kinswoman:
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PostSubject: Re: Who or what was Adam and Eve?   Mon Sep 28, 2015 12:09 am

Does that say then that Eve is the wisdom that was gained from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil?  Absolutely.
Is that wisdom 'bad?'  Yes. it causes you to be separate or to divide yourself if you go after that wisdom.
Explain what causes the separation.  That is a tricky question, but that is why the law was brought in.
Why?  To stop the separation.
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PostSubject: Re: Who or what was Adam and Eve?   Mon Sep 28, 2015 12:58 am

Great posts Gaaront.

This seperation I believe is psycho-chemical. A change in brain chemistry. The acquisition of incredible knowledge at the expense of the soul and connection with God.

The story of Faust is a well known tale which has been represented by many writers in many different forms, but essentially it is the story of the Alchemist/Occultist who in their quest for knowledge will do anything, even effectively selling their soul and changing their natural relationship with God.

I believe this is what is learned in the Kaballah and all the various secret societies and mystical cults.

The Illuminati and all those who sell their soul are retracing the steps of Adam and Eve and eating the forbidden fruit Nakash (the occult) and having their eyes opened to something which God didn't want them to fully know, for good reason.

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PostSubject: Re: Who or what was Adam and Eve?   Mon Sep 28, 2015 4:15 pm

As I said, the Illuminati are a result of eating the fruit, of opening the eyes.  We would not have the Illuminati if there was no perceived levels of perception.  We live in a dimensional world.  We were made just like every other creature on this earth.  The difference is our vision.  The creatures see 2 dimensions, up to down, forward to back.  That was us until we ate the fruit.  The fruit became a drug.  It opened false eyes.  All of the drugs in our society, the pharmaceutical drugs, the alcohol, the meth, the cocaine, and even the jungle Hiyawaska(sp) are the forbidden fruit.  They open up dimensions that should not be opened up.
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PostSubject: Re: Who or what was Adam and Eve?   Mon Sep 28, 2015 4:26 pm

Does that say that Eve is the Illuminati?  Well, that is a thing to be considered; Eve is a different level, a separate something that was named and you can perceive the Illuminati by symbols of a unique kind, something out of a different dimension.
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PostSubject: Re: Who or what was Adam and Eve?   Mon Sep 28, 2015 5:12 pm

To further explain that, I use the very first part of Job in the Bible.

 Job 1:6  Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them.
Job 1:7  And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.

Satan is not an entity.  Satan is a deceiving thought, anger, something that is, like you say, psycho-chemical.  Verse 7 indicates two dimensions.  Up and down, to and fro.  The holographic principle is like a comic strip.  A book with pages of figures drawn up and down, to and fro.  The figures move by thumbing through the book.  Your body is a book.
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PostSubject: Re: Who or what was Adam and Eve?   Mon Sep 28, 2015 6:33 pm

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As I said, the Illuminati are a result of eating the fruit, of opening the eyes.  We would not have the Illuminati if there was no perceived levels of perception.  We live in a dimensional world.  We were made just like every other creature on this earth.  The difference is our vision.  The creatures see 2 dimensions, up to down, forward to back.  That was us until we ate the fruit.  The fruit became a drug.  It opened false eyes.  All of the drugs in our society, the pharmaceutical drugs, the alcohol, the meth, the cocaine, and even the jungle Hiyawaska(sp) are the forbidden fruit.  They open up dimensions that should not be opened up.

Absolutely. You know what you're talking about.

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PostSubject: Re: Who or what was Adam and Eve?   Mon Sep 28, 2015 6:44 pm

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To further explain that, I use the very first part of Job in the Bible.

 Job 1:6  Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them.
Job 1:7  And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.

Satan is not an entity.  Satan is a deceiving thought, anger, something that is, like you say, psycho-chemical.  Verse 7 indicates two dimensions.  Up and down, to and fro.  The holographic principle is like a comic strip.  A book with pages of figures drawn up and down, to and fro.  The figures move by thumbing through the book.  Your body is a book.

Fantastic stuff Gaaront. I wish I could find something to disagree with or question but you're spot on again.

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PostSubject: Re: Who or what was Adam and Eve?   Mon Sep 28, 2015 7:17 pm

Now, my voice is trying to tell me the similarities between Satan, Eve, and the Illuminati.  First, the process of the vision in the brain and how the brain stores images.  The eyes register the photons from the atmosphere.  It elicits a psycho-chemical response in the body according to the wave pattern in the frequency. 
Why is Satan always portrayed inside a flame of fire?   It has something to do with the psycho-chemical response of the wave pattern in the color red and the attached memory (psycho-) engrams of heat and desire.  An engram is like writing on a page that cannot be erased except through the recognition of the potential force.  All that memories are are engrams.  The words satan, adam, eve, tree, football, etc. call up engrams.  The force of the engram controls the level in the memory.
That gets into the hologram and what it contains. 
Your thought, your mind, I have called Adam.  When somebody says Adam to you, what does your mind do?  Better yet, what causes your mind to do anything when you hear something? When you see something, the photons cause a psycho-chemical reaction.  When you hear something, there is something called phonons that cause a reaction in the same way. 
You have a sense that is termed echolocation.  That uses phonons in the same way that vision uses photons.  There was a time when people were complaining about the ringing in their ears and the doctors unsure of the cause gave them meds for it and sent them home.  Vision + Echolocation = Proprioreception.  Back to the topic, the mind called Adam.
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PostSubject: Re: Who or what was Adam and Eve?   Mon Sep 28, 2015 7:29 pm

Thanks truth for having a medium that would cause this reflection to come about.  The only thing that I am using to come up with this stuff is the level of education that my mind that I call Adam has reached and it is about as sharp as this internet is.
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PostSubject: Re: Who or what was Adam and Eve?   Mon Sep 28, 2015 11:26 pm

gaaront wrote:

You have a sense that is termed echolocation.  That uses phonons in the same way that vision uses photons.  There was a time when people were complaining about the ringing in their ears and the doctors unsure of the cause gave them meds for it and sent them home.  Vision + Echolocation = Proprioreception. 

I wonder if Joshua used phonons to bring down the walls of Jericho... Would the gold and wood of the Ark have created a natural electrical charge capacitor or something?

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6 Now the gates of Jericho were securely barred because of the Israelites. No one went out and no one came in.

2 Then the Lord said to Joshua, “See, I have delivered Jericho into your hands, along with its king and its fighting men. 3 March around the city once with all the armed men. Do this for six days. 4 Have seven priests carry trumpets of rams’ horns in front of the ark. On the seventh day, march around the city seven times, with the priests blowing the trumpets. 5 When you hear them sound a long blast on the trumpets, have the whole army give a loud shout; then the wall of the city will collapse and the army will go up, everyone straight in.”

They could have built up a huge static charge in the Ark somehow (after all the Arc was deadly to those who were not priests and initiated into the mystery). The mystery of being safe with the Ark probably related to the priests ensuring they were properly insulated and safe from the potentially dangerous high voltage discharges.

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At the beginning of his reign, King David removed the Ark from Kirjath-jearim amid great rejoicing. On the way to Zion, Uzzah, one of the drivers of the cart that the Ark was carried on, put out his hand to steady the Ark, and was struck dead by God for touching it.

Large voltages can be built up by simple manual electro static processes which have been known to mankind since the dawn of history.... but the creation of an actual electrical capacitor at the dawn of human civilisation is really a rather remakable feat.

If the Ark were a giant capacitor, and this does seem feasible, then it could be used to amplify a signal (such as the shouts and trumpets of the Israelites)

Also the Ark was apparently used to communicate directly with God, again, was this possibly also connected to some kind of mystical electrical process?

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The ark served (i) as receptacle for the two tablets of the Decalogue (Ex. 25:16, 21; 40:20; Dt. 10:1-5) and also for the pot of manna and Aaron’s rod (Heb. 9:4-5); (ii) as the meeting-place in the inner sanctuary where the Lord revealed his will to his servants (Moses: Ex. 25:22; 30:36; Aaron: Lv. 16:2; Joshua: Jos. 7:6). Thus it served as the symbol of the divine presence guiding his people. The ark was made at Sinai by Bezalel to the pattern given to Moses (Ex. 25:8ff.). It was used as a depository for the written law (Dt. 31:9; Jos. 24:26) and played a significant part at the crossing of Jordan (Jos. 3-4), the fall of Jericho (Jos. 6) and the ceremony of remembering the covenant at Mt Ebal (Jos. 8:30ff.).

https://bible.org/question/what-was-ark-covenant-and-was-it-real

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PostSubject: Re: Who or what was Adam and Eve?   Mon Sep 28, 2015 11:39 pm

Here's something interesting, apparently the theory that the Ark was a capacitor goes back to 1933.

http://io9.com/the-engineer-who-said-the-ark-of-the-covenant-was-a-gia-1598583115

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The Engineer Who Said The Ark Of The Covenant Was A Giant Capacitor

Among the many lessons to be found in the Bible, prominent among them is "Look, but don't touch." When an Israelite named Uzzah laid hands upon the Ark of The Covenant, he was struck down by God. But, in 1933, an engineering professor theorized that the real cause of death was 10,000 volts of static electricity.

The Engineer Who Said The Ark Of The Covenant Was A Giant Capacitor
According to an article that appeared in the March 5th, 1933 edition of the Chicago Daily Tribune, Frederick Rogers, the Dean of the Department of Engineering at the Lewis Institute of Technology, conducted a careful study of the construction of the Ark as described in the Bible, and concluded that its design matched a perfectly constructed simple electric condenser:




The scientific interest in the construction pointed out by Prof. Rogers was that the acacia wood box—about 40 inches long and slightly less than 30 inches in width and in depth—not only was lined with gold teal on the inside but overlaid with the some metal without.

This, according to Prof. Rogers, is the first step that any modern boy with a flare for electrical experimentation will take to create a Leyden jar, except that in the Leyden jar, a glass receptacle is coated on the inside and outside with tin foil instead of gold. Then, with the aid of a rod with a small knob at the top and a short chain at the bottom which is inserted through the cork so that the chain can make contact with the bottom of the jar, the young experimenter is ready to collect small charges of bottled lighting.

But the Ark of the Covenant was a much larger condenser….The divine directions called for the creation of two cherubim of pure gold to be placed on a gold slab or "mercy seat" overtop the Ark. These cherubim, Prof. Rogers explained, made up what he believes to have been the positive pole of the circuit.

He explained…that it is known among physicists that a "difference of potential" exists between the earth and the air which may be collected in electrical charges under certain favorable conditions…It was explained that even slight movements of heat rising in smoke—such as from burning sacrifices or even incense—would distribute lesser charges of static electricity….This, Prof. Rogers explained, may have accounted for the collecting of bolts powerful enough to cause death.
The question of whether it was sufficient to melt Nazi's faces was not addressed.

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PostSubject: Re: Who or what was Adam and Eve?   Tue Sep 29, 2015 12:43 am

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Thanks truth for having a medium that would cause this reflection to come about.  The only thing that I am using to come up with this stuff is the level of education that my mind that I call Adam has reached and it is about as sharp as this internet is.

My pleasure. Thankyou for posting here. I'm really enjoying your ideas, they are causing me to have ideas too.

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PostSubject: Re: Who or what was Adam and Eve?   Sun Nov 29, 2015 9:03 pm

I have always wondered what Adam and Eve did . . .
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PostSubject: Re: Who or what was Adam and Eve?   Mon Nov 30, 2015 1:03 am

You know, it has possibly been hundreds of thousands of years since the mythology arose about Adam (Atom) and Eve (Energy).  How long will it be until the truth spreads?
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PostSubject: Re: Who or what was Adam and Eve?   Mon Nov 30, 2015 1:42 am

gaaront wrote:
You know, it has possibly been hundreds of thousands of years since the mythology arose about Adam (Atom) and Eve (Energy).  How long will it be until the truth spreads?

Yeah, that's a pretty good interpretation. 

How does this fit with the idea of Eve becoming corrupted though. Was the energy somehow corrupted?

I dunno, it's all a bit of a mystery... though I wonder if the story of Adam and Eve, the bloodline of Cain and the Nephelim/giants has anything to do with the battles between Neardethal man and Cro-Magnon man.

And where the heck did Cro-Magnon man come from?

Weird story....all shrouded in mystery.

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